About electric motors, generators and magnetism

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Vidura posted this 2 weeks ago

In this thread I will present some video material from Peter Lindemanns Movie “Electric motor secrets”. As the videos found on You tube had a synchronisation issue with the video and soundtracks it was very hard to understand and follow the presented material, so I will post here the edited video in three parts. It should give some inspiration to discuss the presented concepts and ideas, verify with own experiments and try to figure out some more secrets about magnetism and its interaction with electric current.

So here are the three videos “Electric motor secrets”:

In the second part I have commented a few things, which reflect only my personal opinion, but as far as possible I will try to present experimental results proof the statements.

Find attached below the patents of Robert Teals Magnipulsion engine:

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Vidura posted this 2 weeks ago

In this thread I will present some video material from Peter Lindemanns Movie “Electric motor secrets”. As the videos found on You tube had a synchronisation issue with the video and soundtracks it was very hard to understand and follow the presented material, so I will post here the edited video in three parts. It should give some inspiration to discuss the presented concepts and ideas, verify with own experiments and try to figure out some more secrets about magnetism and its interaction with electric current.

So here are the three videos “Electric motor secrets”:

In the second part I have commented a few things, which reflect only my personal opinion, but as far as possible I will try to present experimental results proof the statements.

Find attached below the patents of Robert Teals Magnipulsion engine:

Vidura

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Vidura posted this 2 weeks ago

Here I have carried out some very simple experiments with electromagnets and magnetic circuits:

It can be clearly noted that opening and closing the magnetic circuit changes the current drawn from the electromagnet in both directions. As per ohms law the current depends on the wire resistance, it is clear that energy is exchanged when the magnetic loop is altered. It is also evident that energy can remain as magnetic flux for apparently unlimited time in a closed magnetic loop, without any current being present in the adhered coil winding.

 

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Vidura posted this 2 weeks ago

Here two more very short experiments to colect more information about the properties of the magnetic flux loop:

Magnetic experiment 2

Magnetic experiment 3

In this experiment I tried to figure out the the limit size of the gap to sustain the magnetic holder effect. With 0.01mm -0.03mm it remains like without the gap. Up to 0.05mm the attraction force is slightly diminished, and with 0.1mm(paper) it is barely perceptible and dies out after an instant

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Vidura posted this 3 days ago

Some concepts about motors and the attempt to overcome the issue of the BEMF. As we saw in the first part of Peter Lindemanns movie, the conventional motor is always acting as a generator as well. This generated BEMF works against the efficiency of the motor. Therefore we should generally not strive for the highest RPM of the motors, as in this condition the COP is the lowest. As the motor is loaded it slows down and generates less of the adverse BEMF raising the performance of the maschine.  In this statement I agree with him, but I disagree in the part where he says that a magnetic attraction motor do not generate anything, this is only true while the electromagnets are turned off. At the moment when a piece of iron is exposed to a magnetic field it becomes magnetized itself and thus produces an BEMF when approaching the coil or moving away from it. Note that using iron it becomes always magnetized in attraction mode, which causes the produced BEMF in the coil to be in opposite direction as the applied voltage when approaching the coil (current decreases) and in the same direction when moving away (current increase). This is true for all conventional motors also AC induction motors and including the most efficient of them, the switched reluctance motor. The last mentioned do not virtually generate any BEMF while it is under constant load in locked state, but when the load is changing the same effect appears producing the changes of current in the coils.

So, one concept to overcome this is the implementation of the magnetic repulsion motor, which has been adopted by Robert Adams and John Bedini for example. In this case the armature has to be constructed with permanent magnets or other sets of electromagnets. It is supposed that in this configuration the generated BEMF would assist the applied EMF to the motor instead of working against it.

What is the difference of a magnetic motor to other magnetoelectric devices like transformers?

I think the most important difference is that in the case of the motor we can find engineer solutions to take advantage to transform a “static magnetic field” into useable work. Of course, power is used to turn the magnet on, then it would be sufficient to overcome the I2R losses during the work cycle, and a significant part of the current could be recovered at switching off.

All this still do not involve the resonant phenomenon, which could bring this machine still to another level. It opens the doors for techniques of very high currents with a great potential of energy recovery, and small I2R losses with the usage of thick conductors.

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xman posted this 3 days ago

Have you seen this document by hoptoad on ou.com? I don't know why it was deleted. Maybe it worked, maybe it didn't. He said the secret is in the core material and length. I haven't done this experiment.

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Vidura posted this 2 days ago

Replying To: xman

Actually I dont visit the OU.com site. But the effect is known, if you have a magnetic pole tester or a small compass you can check the influence of the corelenght, material and geometrical shape.

Here another short video with an experiment on magnetic flux properties:

Magnetic experiment 4

 

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