Beyond Unity - Aharonov-Bohm effect as zero-point energy concentrator

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Fighter posted this 23 May 2022

Hello,

This is the imported thread (from the old aboveunity site) about my experiment investigating the Aharonov-Bohm effect as zero-point energy concentrator:

For references I will keep the original posting date for every imported post.

Note: This thread is public, everyone can see it, even the visitors which are not members here.

For the posts made by former aboveunity members which are not members on our site I'll use a member placeholder named UndisclosedMember.

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
		Nikola Tesla

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Fighter posted this 27 May 2022

Hi Atti,

- I don't believe in exotic formulations. No voodoo.

It's nothing about voodoo, it's physics. The Aharonov-Bohm effect is a fact and was demonstrated.

You shown a device without permanent magnets so it's obvious the Aharonov-Bohm effect can't manifest itself (as Tom Bearden describe it) in the device.

We just need to find new ways for using it in the domain we're making research in. These new ways can be considered "exotic" if we compare them with what the official physics tell us about what's possible and what's not possible.

-Or did you even give incorrect information about the entered and ACCURATE measurements? Even intentionally?

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Why don't you dare describe more information?
No.
Not because you did NOT test the SPECIFIC PARAMETERS properly.

I don't understand this part, are you saying I didn't gave correct information ? Check my ZPM threads, I think you will not find anywhere on internet a more accurate description (with photos, measurements, schemas and everything) for any device or experiment related to zero-point energy. I didn't hide anything.

So what you are saying is based on what ?

I'll just get over this, probably I misunderstood what you said, maybe it's a Google Translate problem.

Still, if you meant to say I did hide information or misleaded others then you're wrong. I'm not in this research to hide information or to mislead anyone, I would have better things to do with my time and my money than to spend them just to mislead others.

Not because you did NOT test the SPECIFIC PARAMETERS properly.

Which specific parameters I didn't tested ? I presented waveforms, measurements on input and measurements on output. Based on that other members calculated ZPM's capabilities. So please be more specific about what parameters were not tested properly.

This thread is for experimenting with Aharonov-Bohm effect, not to be spammed with false accusations and stuff like this. If you don't have additional tests or data to add related to this experiment please don't spam it.

For false accusations and stuff like that you can post them on AboveUnity, it's plenty of them there.

Not here. We're here for experiments and sharing results. And advancing on the way to our common goal: a public overunity device to enhance everyone's lives. That's our mission.

Thank you,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
		Nikola Tesla

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Atti posted this 27 May 2022

Dear forum community, dear reader camp. Dear Fighter.

It’s MY fault that I can’t express myself for proper vocabulary.

I'm sorry.

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Jagau posted this 27 May 2022 - Last Edited 10 June 2022

You will understand that doing experiments is not the easiest thing, even more to explain them on a forum which (no matter the type of forum or the place) you have different people with different skills and knowledge.
Reporting what a person said or did it is very important to place the context in which it was said.
Electronics allows us to better understand something that others cannot understand.
Do you know several inventors who, for fear of being copied, say everything in their patent?
Example TESLA, have you ever managed to do one of his experiments?
We are here to share what we experience, but no matter where you are, sharing is almost non-existent very few experiences are replicated and done successfully.
So if we can change something I will continue here and elsewhere experimented it is a first prerequisite. Spark2

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Fighter posted this 27 May 2022

Atti, so it was a misunderstanding. Okay, not a problem.

I just want to understand, what do you think I did wrong. Which part, specifically ?

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
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Fighter posted this 27 May 2022

Do you know several inventors who, for fear of being copied, say everything in their patent?
Example TESLA, have you ever managed to do one of his experiments?
We are here to share what we experience, but no matter where you are, sharing is almost non-existent very few experiences are replicated and done successfully.
So if we can change something I will continue here and elsewhere experimented it is a first prerequisite. Spark2

Yes, I'm aware about inventors not saying all the details.

That's what experiments are for, to verify what they said.

I'm not sure everything Tom Bearden says is 100% true. But I try to use my intuition to find things which could be possible in what he said.

So in this case I think what he says about employing the Aharonov-Bohm effect in the functionality of the MEG is a distinct possibility. A possibility which I chosen to check through this experiment.

This experiment was interrupted (like my other experiments) because of an event which occurred in my life last year in October. You know what I'm talking about. But since then I tried to get myself together again and if possible I will continue them.

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
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Atti posted this 27 May 2022

As I wrote: THERE IS CURRENTLY NOT A PERMANENT MAGNET.

This is INTENTIONAL ORIENTATION in this direction.
In this form, I wanted to conduct a direct investigation. In my opinion, a comprehensive investigation covers everything.

Obviously, this does NOT apply to the Fighter device. So I did NOT understand the ZPM device !!!!! Because that's another method!
I'm sorry I misunderstood you.

We just need to find new ways for using it in the domain we're making research in. These new ways can be considered "exotic" if we compare them with what the official physics tell us about what's possible and what's not possible.

I think I'm looking for new ways too. Not everyone understands this.

Not here. We're here for experiments and sharing results. And advancing on the way to our common goal: a public overunity device to enhance everyone's lives. That's our mission.

So far, I, too, thought I would share the experiments and results (even if negative) with everyone. But you may not need everything.

I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. Only good intentions guided.

Atti.

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Fighter posted this 27 May 2022

Hi Atti,

The Aharonov-Bohm effect is manifesting itself when there is a permanent magnetic field trapped inside the core but not spilling out of the core.

So the permanent magnetic field should be strong to almost saturate the core but not strong enough to spill outside of the core.

If that scenario is achieved, checking with a magnetometer around the core will show there is no magnetic field around the core. Then in those condition that electric field around the core will appear, that's the Aharonov-Bohm effect Bearden says he's using in his MEG.

But without permanent magnets in your device there is no permanent magnetic flux trapped inside the core and not spilling out of the core. That's why I said the permanent magnets are missing so the experiment will not show the Aharonov-Bohm effect. But maybe there is something I'm missing from your experiment and what you're trying to verify with your experiment. Sorry, I'm working at my job in the same time and maybe my mind is not clear enough to understand.

Edit: unfortunately I don't have an magnetometer and I don't intend to buy one right now because from a short research on the market seems their prices are very high. Without a magnetometer building the test scenario will be more difficult but I'll try to find other more simple ways to check if there is no magnetic flux spillage outside of the core.

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
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Shadow_ posted this 28 May 2022

“All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.“

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Fighter posted this 28 May 2022

Hi Gandalf,

Thanks for the video, it's very interesting.

I'm uploading the video on our server so we can have it as reference in case it becomes unavailable on YouTube:

He seems to use a pulsed magnetic field detector like me, just his tool is much simpler, it's not detecting the pulsed magnetic field polarity (link to larger image here):

The curious part is his tool also looks like a capacitor connected to a LED. I'm not sure if he have a coil in his tool or that's a real capacitor.

If it's a capacitor then his tool is not for detecting the pulsed magnetic field, maybe it's for detecting pulsed electric field and that's something totally different. 'Cause that would mean there is a pulsed electric field around the core, exactly as Bearden said, as a result of the Aharonov-Bohm effect.

I checked the menu language of his oscilloscope, it's Chinese. So he is in China or at least he's speaking Chinese. I asked him on his YouTube video about that tool.

About the part of making sure the permanent magnet field is entrapped into the core but it's not spilling outside the core I think there is a simple way to achieve that: I'll use one 20x20x25 mm ferrite magnet and then add 7x7x25 mm ferrite magnets one by one while using a small piece of iron put on the core surface doesn't remain attached to the core.

In other words I'll keep putting small magnets inside the core while making sure there is no magnetic field on the surface of the core capable of retaining a small piece of iron.

I think it's a simple but effective way of achieving the scenario described by Bearden without using a magnetometer.

I'll see if this idea works.

Regards,

Fighter