Beyond Unity - Fighter's ZPM (Zero Point Module) failed replication by Itsu

Itsu posted this 07 November 2022

Hello all,

i opened this thread to discuss my replication of Fighter's ZPE (Zero Point Module).

I already opened a similar thread on OUR.com (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4374.msg101654#msg101654 ), but will transfer some data from there to here.

Initially i understood that the below diagram was correct and complete, but it turns out its not.
There is a ground connection somewhere, but i am not sure where it is exactly, hopefully someone can tell me.
The MOSFET is shown wrong as the Drain and Source should be swapped, which was corrected later in Fighter his thread so therefor the mentioning in red.

I have build up a similar circuit and the data is shown here:
(Be aware that the induction measurement was done at 10kHz, but due to the influence of the metglas core it can be (and is) completly different on other frequencies, see my thread on OUR.com for a VNA scan of the coil/core)

I am using a 12V battery for now as my PS (minus NOT grounded) was acting weird due to all the pulses coming back from the ZPE device.
Up till now no special effects or resonance in a 0 to 5MHz range are seen with this setup, but as said the grounding may be the problem here.

Itsu

zpm

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Fighter posted this 14 December 2022

He is not here anymore, he is banned.

A honest researcher would've tried to see what's wrong and why the replication doesn't work, compare his experiment with what Atti and Jagau presented, try to find the differences, what's blocking the input reduction effect, fix the issues. He never tried that, he just simply jumped to measurements and calculating the COP. That says it all about his real intentions.

If that's the way he "replicated" and "evaluated" other devices then no wonder he and his buddies never came with anything new in 15 years. They can have a working device of Don Smith there, they will still say is nothing unusual about it and its COP is just "measurement errors".

More than that, after I warned him to stop his personal agenda against Jagau 'cause I will not allow that kind of behavior here he started sending personal messages to other members asking them to go public against Jagau and to say his calculation method is wrong.

I also received that kind of message and other members told me they received messages like that.

We not gonna have that kind of trash here with members going against each other, fighting for personal agenda which have nothing to do with the research and development.

If you guys want something like that then no problem, you may try and register on the overunity site and see this kind of wars and disinformation every day there. You'll find Itsu and his buddies there doing everyday exactly what he tried to do here - disinformation, personal wars, revenges etc. Nothing to do with research and development.

I'm not gonna allow this site to be transformed in a toxic and useless waste like overunity site is.

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
		Nikola Tesla

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Jagau posted this 14 December 2022 - Last Edited 14 December 2022

I have just received in my personal email a request to help Itsu, I will never accept this type of behavior,

do not even try without i inviting you, enough is enough.

P.S. Fighter I'm sending you a email received via PM

Jagau

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Fighter posted this 14 December 2022

Hi Jagau,

I don't have an account there so I can't check all the links he talks about.

But from what I can see he just sent a personal message using that site (overunityresearch), he can do that because you have an account there registered with your email address.

It's like you receive a notification here on our site when you a have a personal message from me for example.

Just here the notification email is coming from notification.beyondunity@*****, not from my email adress as here we don't expose our members email addresses to each other for security reasons.

Apparently on that site they don't have this kind of security there.

And yes, that's what they do. What they do there is not research, it's disinformation. Their main mission is to "prove" none of these devices work. They falsify data, they falsify experiments, they ignore some of the results of their experiments just to achieve their pre-established "conclusion": "measurement errors".

Why do you think I never joined that site ? I visited it for years from time to time and I saw what they are doing there is disinformation, it has nothing to do with real research and real experiments.

I mean it's obvious for anyone using basic logic that you can't jump to measurements for COP when your replication of a device doesn't work as expected/presented.

Just ignore them, that's what I'm gonna do. Itsu's "replication" was just a bad joke to enforce their usual "conclusion" and to prove ZPM doesn't work.

And they try to do that even if I published tons of data with experiments and presentations of the ZPM prototype and also a ZPM replication and we have two successful and public ZPM replications right here on our site (your ZPM replication and Atti's replication). There is also another successful ZPM replication made by Chris from the old aboveunity site, the one which he kept secret for more than a year.

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
		Nikola Tesla

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Fighter posted this 14 December 2022

And seems we have a wannabe cheerleader here:

It seems they have no legs to stand on! Everyone now see's the behaviour and is very well aware of the Toxicity of their actions!

Shame this behaviour is not what is preached and we still see attacks by the very same people even today! Double Standards!

Best Wishes,

Chris

Shut your mouth, you can read again your lies, your trash and your disinformation here:

https://www.beyondunity.org/thread/public-answer-to-chris/

You're not different than them, enjoy your reading if you have memory problems... 😄

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
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Fighter posted this 15 December 2022

Talking about integrity and good intentions, this is what Itsu is telling to his buddies on their forum:

So he says he got banned because he failed replication.

He "forgot" to say about his multiple attacks agains Jagau, about the personal messages he sent asking our members to go public against Jagau and to say his calculation method is wrong, about the "get over it" attitude, about doing exactly the opposite while trying to replicate ZPM, about jumping to measurements and calculating COP even if his device was not functioning properly just to achieve his pre-established "conclusion" he came here for disinformation purposes.

Also he is lying that people get banned here when they fail replications. Really ?... How many members were banned here because of that ? Please tell me just one. Because he was banned for other reasons specified above.

So he have no problem with Jagau, he permanently attacked him even before joining our forum just because of friendship I suppose.

Also he "forgot" to say to his friends that he actually started calculating also the COP while the input reduction effect was not present.

Then he is lying that I'm the only one who reproduced the input reduction effect even if he saw with his own eyes (like everyone else) the input reduction effect presented in Atti's video about his successful ZPM replication.

So this was just an honest researcher, unbiased, professional, coming here to get more details, to replicate ZPM and to evaluate its COP, isn't ?... 😉

This is the kind of "researchers" (how they present themselves) on that overunity site.

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
		Nikola Tesla

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cd_sharp posted this 15 December 2022

Guys,

I personally do not care about OU.com. Everyone there can say anything. But they should not come here to destroy our harmony. We do serious research here. Anyone that is disrespectful, lying and trying to create chaos is not welcome.

Research needs a great state of mind and peace. We'll keep the peace. We will not consume resources by arguing with such individuals. We'll just kick them out quickly.

We have better things to do, like research.

Stay strong!

If you know how to build such a device and you're not sharing, you're a schmuck! - Graham Gunderson

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bigmotherwhale posted this 16 December 2022

How are these the same? Show me the overshoot or ringdown on itsus scope shots here. The only time i have seen any traces of this are at the start of his replication before he started increasing the resistance and inductance of his source and not compensating for it with a large enough capacitor. IMO.

How are we still talking about this? its history now, how about we move on and try and conduct experiments that lead to an understanding of the fundementals, we are never going power the world with COP of 2.

It seems whoever wants discord in these groups suceeds very easily, this is becomming like a soap opera.

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Shelfordella posted this 16 December 2022

I'm afraid it isn't COP 2, because:

Pin= 0.292a x 24 x sqrt 0.382 / sqrt 3 = 2.533 watts

should be:

Pin= 0.292a x 24 x sqrt 0.382 = 4,33 watts

"A little theory and calculation would have saved Edison 90 per cent of the labor." Nikola Tesla

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Fighter posted this 16 December 2022

Quoting:Shelfordella

Itsu calculates the power correctly by using the math function, plotting it on the red channel and taking the average. I think Jagau has made a mistake when calculating the power using math by hand. He could try the same as Itsu: include 24V, PSU current, and use the math and avg function.

Jagau's method of calculation can be made manually using the formulas but there is also the calculator on Vishay's site using the same method of calculation.

Try it, you'll see the results are the same:

https://www.vishay.com/en/resistors/pulse-energy-calculator/

Why just talking so much about this and not just verifying with the online calculator present on the site of Vishay - a very professional manufacturer of electronic components ? It's just a matter of minutes to check.

I checked this from the beginning and the results were the same for the manual calculation and for the online calculator.

If you want to understand more just check Dr. Nastase's papers online.

So for me this is already clear: Jagau's calculation method is valid.

It was also verified and confirmed by other members of our core team before Jagau came public with it. Including Yoel. Jagau is a very careful researcher. He asked for double-checks here and also the experts in real life before deciding to move the info in our public section.

So just let's move on, sorry for being blunt but this discussion already took too much time, if there are some who are still not convinced that's not our responsability to convince them all.

Regards,

Fighter

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		Nikola Tesla

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Shelfordella posted this 17 December 2022

Quoting:Fighter

Quoting:Shelfordella

Itsu calculates the power correctly by using the math function, plotting it on the red channel and taking the average. I think Jagau has made a mistake when calculating the power using math by hand. He could try the same as Itsu: include 24V, PSU current, and use the math and avg function.

If you want to understand more just check Dr. Nastase's papers online.

So for me this is already clear: Jagau's calculation method is valid.

Regards,

Fighter

This one, right?

https://masteringelectronicsdesign.com/how-to-derive-the-rms-value-of-a-triangle-waveform/

I agree 100% with the paper, it's this paper led me to conclude that 0.292 x 24 x sqrt 0.382 / sqrt 3 is wrong and 0.292 x 24 x sqrt 0.382 is right.

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