Beyond Unity - Romanian ZPM (Zero Point Module)

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Fighter posted this 07 February 2023

This is the imported thread (from the old aboveunity site) about my ZPM:

For references I will keep the original posting date for every imported post.

Note: This thread is public, everyone can see it, even the visitors which are not members here.

For the posts made by former aboveunity members which are not members on our site I'll use a member placeholder named UndisclosedMember.

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
		Nikola Tesla

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UndisclosedMember posted this 21 August 2019

@YoElMiCrO

Fascinating theory. i will admit, my first impressions were a little different. - i was thinking more on the lines that.

this resonant concept is perfectly normal, just like any other, however we have managed too buy some magic cores, that allow for the high frequencies. and furthermore, unlike previously possible, we have a core that can resonate with the coil, and reinforce the osculations amplitude under load. does that make sense ?

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Fighter posted this 22 August 2019

Hi guys, finally I had some time to make the measurements I promised before going to vacation.

So I used a 0.25 Ohm non-inductive resistor (half of a shunt I borrowed from Cd_Sharp).

Just a note: the effect of introducing in circuit the resistor and the oscilloscope is that I need to find another optimal frequency for the device so for each measurement you have also a photo of the frequency on the signal generator screen; also for each measurement you have a schema showing how oscilloscope's probes are connected.

In the images below the blue channel is voltage and the yellow channel is current (the channel is put in parallel on the current-sensing resistor).

First I've made measurements on input:

Then I've made measurements on output:

According to some previous discussions related to measurements made before where we saw current going in both directions through the resistor connected on input the conclusion was that ZPM is "seeing" the DC source as a load and it's actually sending power back to it so I was thinking it's a good idea to also make measurement of the current sent back by ZPM to the DC source; notice in the measurement schema below that the position of the yellow channel probe is inverted:

Also you remember that before going to vacation I posted here a photo about a anomaly where the device seems to power preferentially the light-bulbs put on its output ? Like in this image where a 12V/5W light-bulb placed directly on device's coils is illuminating stronger than another 12V/5W light-bulb connected after a 12V/55W light-bulb ? This photo:

I wanted to see what's going on on the output so I connected one channel from the oscilloscope directly on device's coils and another channel on light-bulb's pins as following:

Blue channel is connected directly on ZPM's coils while the yellow channel is connected on the light-bulb's pins.

So I didn't measured the current but I measured the voltage only. As you can see (marked with red rectangle on the image of the oscilloscope's screen) on the same wire there is a Vpp difference of 36 volts between its beginning and its end. I didn't knew it's possible to have voltage difference in the same wire when its length is just 30-40 centimeters.

The only explanation I can find about this anomaly is related to those mysterious standing waves as Vidura noticed:

Hey Fighter and all, The effect that the light bulbs on different connected points (or different wire length) have unequal luminosity is a sign for standing waves at high frequencies. Comparable with Tesla's experience when he shorted a transmission line at one point with a thick copper bar and had at another point of the line light bulbs lit.

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
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Vidura posted this 23 August 2019

Hey Fighter,
In my interpretation of the measurements we have on the Output, where we have to use the RMS values, as power is dissipated bidirectional by the lightbulb: 1.16 / 0.25 = 4.64Arms x 8.97Vrms = 41,62W
and on the input we use the average: 0.373/0.25= 1.492Aavg x 25.5V = 38.04W

Regarding the different Power on different points of the circuit I will do a post soon , as this is related to standing waves, a very important phenomenon to study.

Regards VIDURA.

Vidura

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Fighter posted this 23 August 2019

Vidura, I'm very interested about your post about standing waves.

Considering that voltage difference from my 4th measurement (Vpp almost double on ZPM's coils compared to light-bulb's pins) I wonder how the output measurement would look like if I would place the resistor near the ZPM's coils). Based on what I saw there maybe the Vrms will be double ? Don't know but it worth a try.

Also I compared the Vrms measured today with the Vrms measured before only with the oscilloscope without the resistor:

Previous Vrms:

Today Vrms:

Seems the resistor on output has negative impact on voltage, the difference is 10.7Vrms - 8.97Vrms = 1.73Vrms. Why is this happening ?

If we would use that previous voltage we would not have 41.62W on output, we would have 4.64Arms x 10.7Vrms = 49.64W. Is the resistor dissipating 8W ? It gets hot while measuring more than 30-40 seconds, is that heat the cause of that 8W difference ?

I will need to clarify this Vrms difference, maybe I'll repeat the measurements with 2 x 12V/55W light-bulbs.

I have the feeling that this method of measuring power even if it's standard method for usual devices it's not entirely matching this device's considering its strange behavior on output (36 Vpp difference in the same wire on output).

Anyway, even with today's measurement and calculation it would be 1.094 (almost 1.1) COP, does it mean that ZPM can be officially tagged with "ABOVEUNITY" tag ? 🙂

The machines tagged as: ABOVEUNITY are examples of this. When we get a good output measurement on Fighters DUT then we can add this Tag.

Is there agreement about this ?

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UndisclosedMember posted this 23 August 2019

Hey Fighter,

You have my Vote!

Purely Resistive Load, no phase angle to worry about! Figures look good!

Input:

Output:

Well done! Good work Fighter!

You have "Generated" a full: ‭3.574784‬ Watts above your Input for a COP: ‭1.09396‬

Calculator is attached in zip format below if you want to use it.

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Vidura posted this 23 August 2019

Hey Fighter
I agree that it looks promising, take in account that the Power dissipated by the current sensing resistor is included in the results, at least according to conventional physic's. I would like very much to see a input measurement with a RC filter in between the instruments(or scope) and the ZPM. For comparison if the results mach and also if the ZPM perform correctly if fed from a filtered input-capacitor array.

When you are tuning the module you should monitor the Avg current and Voltage on the input, to find the point where you got the effect with a minimal inputpower.

Good work Fighter!

Vidura

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Fighter posted this 23 August 2019

Thanks guys !

You have "Generated" a full: ‭3.574784‬ Watts above your Input for a COP: ‭1.09396‬

It would look much better if I "convince" ZPM to not "see" the DC source as a load and to try to power it up 🙂 At this point I have no idea how I can accomplish this, I need to think about it.

I would like very much to see a input measurement with a RC filter in between the instruments(or scope) and the ZPM. For comparison if the results mach and also if the ZPM perform correctly if fed from a filtered input-capacitor array.

When you are tuning the module you should monitor the Avg current and Voltage on the input, to find the point where you got the effect with a minimal inputpower.

I would try to prepare that when I get more time, possibly in weekend. But when I tried last time to put a choke coil on input's positive wire (before going to vacation) the ZPM didn't worked at all, the DC source entered in auto-protection mode, the voltage stabilizer which powers that LED in the MOSFET driver was burning and smoking and I had the impression the MOSFETS themselves didn't felt very well, they were heating up quickly so I did shutdown the experiment. The voltage stabilizer (powering that LED) is destroyed again 🙂

The choke-coil has 80 turns of 0.8mm wire on ferrite core.

I think it's related to ZPM trying to send power back to the DC source, seems it doesn't like choke coils, but it's just a guess...

Also I have a question, is there any conventional explanation why introducing that current-sensing resistor in the output makes Vpp and Vrms drop ? I already know that the voltage is higher on ZPM's coils than on light-bulb pins (standing waves effect) but could the resistor have a role in the voltage drop too ?

Take a look at the next image and values highlighted with red rectangles, one is the output measurement made yesterday and other is just oscilloscope (without resistor) put directly on ZPM's coils:

It's a 16Vpp voltage drop !

Based on what I observed in experiments until now maybe I should put the current-sensing resistor directly on ZPM's coils and measure output again there ? And also I'm thinking about to put the light-bulbs directly on ZPM's coils and eliminate those output wires which seems to degrade the output power ?

But again, how useful the output power would be if it can't be transmitted properly through wires, if it's degrading when using wires on output ?.. A lot of questions and decisions to make regarding further experiments and enhancements...

Edit: I have also another question which I wanted to ask but I always forgot: is there any scenario when a physical current limiter in a DC source can be tricked so the source is actually providing more current than the limit set on that current limiter ? I'm asking because I tried before several times to set the current limit to just 20mA while powering the ZPM and the source didn't entered in auto-protection mode as it usually does when testing the same scenario with let's say a 200mA light-bulb powered by the DC source. With ZPM the source doesn't enter in auto-protection mode but it does with that 200mA light-bulb.

This is the current limiter on my DC source:

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Fighter posted this 23 August 2019

This post is not related directly to ZPM but it's related to my first post from this thread.

I'm in the same time happy and sad.

I'm happy for proving that ZPM is over-unity even if the COP is not that great like I estimated initially (based on the DC source readings) but now my research is entering in another area I call "optimization and efficiency improvements". For ZPM this is just the beginning, I shared every information with as much as many details possible and I hope others will join me in this work.

In the same time I'm sad to see what's happening right now which is confirming what I said in my first post.

https://www.vox.com/2019/8/22/20828219/amazon-rainforest-wildfire-photos-fire-greenland

The Amazon forest (the lungs of our planet) is burning for few weeks now, below is just one of the satellite images.

The same thing is happening in Europe, Asia, Latin America even in Alaska and Greenland.

Just a note to remember why we're here and that we really have little time left on this planet, those 50 years left calculated by the scientific community is really a very optimistic scenario. In my opinion I think we have more likely just 20 years left.

And as i said in my first post here, there is no individual escape from what's coming, we either all use free-energy or... Because if just few hundreds people will use free-energy devices kept secret while other billions will still use coal and oil, those free-energy devices will not help them survive while massive fires or 7th grade hurricanes will come over their houses.

Research and share just like I do here.

Thank you...

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Vidura posted this 23 August 2019

For your last question, the current limiting circuit of a power supply take the current value from an internal measurement shunt, which is likely the same value that is output on the display, if this value can not be correctly sensed due to interference the limiting function will not be triggered.

the next question: if you put a voltage or current regulator on the output of the ZPM it will likely be destroyed , because the output is AC, HF at important power level. If I did not understand correctly the usage of the regulator and led just tell me.

Regarding the choke on the positive wire:

the power supply have an internal capacitor(or more of them) on the output, this is the part which supposedly interacts with the ZPM, delivering and receiving power. The choke will prevent this interaction if you dont put an other capacitor(or more) as replacement on the side of the ZPM. For a better shielding you must put another choke on the GND wire, then you can measure the power transfer between the Power supply and the filter, as a much smoother dc like wave, less prone to math errors than the irregular AC wave without filtering. this is the reason for my suggestion.

It might not be desirable to prevent the returning power to the supply or capacitor , as this returned power replaces the most of the inputpower.

As in many of this kind of devices the output load is an important factor for tuning, so it is not as easy to just plug in any load and it will work. But there are technical solutions to solve this problem, and "show " the device a constant load, so it maintains tuned.

I hope to have answered your questions with this,

regards VIDURA.

Vidura

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Fighter posted this 23 August 2019

Thank you for the explanations, Vidura.

And I'm gonna note this:

It might not be desirable to prevent the returning power to the supply or capacitor , as this returned power replaces the most of the inputpower.

As in many of this kind of devices the output load is an important factor for tuning, so it is not as easy to just plug in any load and it will work. But there are technical solutions to solve this problem, and "show " the device a constant load, so it maintains tuned.

This would solve the problem of permanently finding another optimal frequency everytime I change the load on ZPM's output. But that's for later when I'll need to solve this problem I'm gonna ask you then, ZPM is not at that stage yet 🙂

So ZPM would work even with a choke-coil if I put let's say one of those 10,000uF electrolytic capacitors in parallel on the wires between the choke-coil and ZPM (more specific between choke-coil and MOSFET driver) ? I can try that. When you have some time can you draw a simple schema on how this filter would look like ? No rush, just when you have some time, thanks.

And a single clarification from my side, the voltage regulator is actually put in the MOSFET driver to ensure the LED near the switch turns on every time the switch is turned on. Basically that voltage regulator makes sure that the LED is receiving 12V no matter how much voltage (between 0V and 30V) is coming from the DC source. And the LED is just a visual indicator showing that the MOSFET driver's switch is on or off, the MOSFET driver works without issues now just its LED is not on anymore when I turn the switch on.

Edit: Wait, I found it, I remembered you drawn a schema for this filter a few weeks ago, I think this is what you mean, right ?

A suggestion for a simple and good filter for keeping out interference from our measuring devices. The values of the components are not at all critical, but may need some adaptation for the expected frequencies. Ceramic decoupling and tantalium caps for the smaller values perform better. The meters could be replaced by a scope as well.

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		Nikola Tesla

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