Beyond Unity - AlteredUnity's successful ZPM replication

AlteredUnity posted this 16 January 2023

Hey everyone, im glad you started a new community, its a shame your device went from "should be first device to replicate after Non-inductive coil" to a toy, to deleted.

300Turn coil : measurements were made with both coils on center of core at 1khz; Coils were then put at far opposite ends of top and bottom of core.

20awg; L = 425mH; DCR = 1.73 ohms

150Turn coil : 20awg; L = 110.7mH; DCR = 0.818 ohms

This is a fast trial run, have more to come with some ideas that may improve opperation. With this configureation I still pull 7 watts of power, so there isn't a whole lot of feedback.

The center tap is connected to cable running to my cars body ground; The scope is connected across load, with its ground on the DRAIN of mosfet. This may be the wrong configuration and reason for not lowering input.

Any pointers are appreciated.

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Fighter posted this 27 July 2023

Replying To: Vasile

You mean to limit the input current ?

I did it with my ZPMs as you can see here.

My DC source have a current limiter. ZPM worked fine and the DC source didn't entered in auto-protection mode:

...I tried before several times to set the current limit to just 20mA while powering the ZPM and the source didn't entered in auto-protection mode as it usually does when testing the same scenario with let's say a 200mA light-bulb powered by the DC source. With ZPM the source doesn't enter in auto-protection mode but it does with that 200mA light-bulb.

This is the current limiter on my DC source:

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
		Nikola Tesla

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AlteredUnity posted this 27 July 2023

I will try that when I get home, but if the PS is only reading a certain current, whether it's confused due to the high frequency or not, i feel like it won't know to enter protection mode. Though the inrush current may trip it, I'll check. Thank you, any recommendations are welcome, I sometimes forget all the many, many, things Fighter had tried, and want to try any/all things that will help in understanding.

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Fighter posted this 28 July 2023

Quoting:AlteredUnity

but if the PS is only reading a certain current, whether it's confused due to the high frequency or not, i feel like it won't know to enter protection mode. Though the inrush current may trip it, I'll check.

Well, I had the same doubts at the beginning during ZPM's development.

But then I was thinking "These are laboratory power supplies, they are used in research labs all over the world and most of these labs are experimenting with high-frequency devices, some not a few hundreds of kilohertz like ZPM use but other devices in these labs are going to many megahertz. If these power supplies would be so easy to fool then we would have wrong results of those experiments all over the world !".

Then I had the confirmation of my DC source's readings from a secondary device (an advanced power meter).

I'm quoting a fragment from my post here:

Still, I used an more advanced power meter which (I'm quoting from its specs): "Acts like a wire so doesn't affect model's performance. Precision Alu-Chrom current sensing resistor, with only 0.001Ohms resistance and circuitry that draws only 7mA Uses DSP to increase ADC resolution and differential measurement amplifiers to increase noise immunity. Powerful, 8MIPS micro-controller.". I "forced" ZPM out of the optimal/resonance frequency so the consumption would be higher because the wattmeter is not built to measure currents lower than 0.100 A. and it confirmed the DC source's readings:

The small current difference (~ 0.01A) is because the power meter itself have a small consumption.

The probability of ZPM messing the readings of two different devices (at the same ZPM frequency but with different components, different reading sensors, etc. ) but still the devices to show the same readings is the same as the probability to play at the lottery for the first time in life and win the big prize then playing for the second time and win the big prize again.

Technically and statistically the probability is 0.

You can see more details here and here.

On my side the constant decreasing of DC source's readings when getting close to ZPM's resonance/optimal point (and that point is different with different loads) is the proof of ZPM's overunity. And if the DC source's readings would be messed up the values would jump up and down with big differences, the increasing/decreasing of the readings would not be so smooth.

It's hard to believe that if both my DC source and that advanced power meter would read wrong values those values would be identical. The chance of that happening is practically 0. If both readings would be messed up then for sure the values would be random and very different.

So, personally, I don't have doubts about the input readings anymore. But of course this is just my opinion.

The final proof would be only a self-powered ZPM. Until then anyone can have their own opinions about ZPM's capabilities.

That's why I made it public, did so many experiments and presented so much data - so researchers can replicate it, see what it can do, explore it and if possible contribute in enhancing it to the goal of making it self-running.

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
		Nikola Tesla

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AlteredUnity posted this 28 July 2023

I completely agree Fighter, I don't think all the effects I'm seeing are natural by any means, as I mentioned in a previous post there was a point when I first started with the ZPM replication, that I could increase the duty cycle beyond 30-70% without the input changing. That alone shows something that cannot happen in a standard electronics or a standard transformer. That is a time I wish I recorded as well. The doubt isn't with the possibilities, it's with the operator(me). Please don't take any offense to my comments, with enough participation, and/or time I'm positive you will have it running it's self soon enough. I feel like there is a lot to be considered and found, with too little time or experience.

It will probably take quite a bit more circuitry and precise timing between componants(like maybe another resonant transformer operating at your zpms Fr to run or receive power from ur zpm), isolation from the load, or many other configurations, but that comes with time, trial and error.

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Fighter posted this 28 July 2023

Replying To: AlteredUnity

No worries, this is not the old aboveunity site and not gonna become a religious-like community with "The ZPM Bible" or something like that... 🙂

Here all experiments are important because every experiment can come with a breakthrough which could be a big leap in our way to the common goal.

Our members can express doubts, express their opinions and have contradictory discussions. That's fine, we're in uncharted territory well beyond the frontiers of the "official" physyics and nothing is impossible.

I just wanted to share that I had my doubts too when I saw the ZPM prototype working and I saw what it does. And what I did to address these doubts.

Because I had on my experiments table a device contradicting all I knew from school about physics and energy.

Like every researcher of our team here I'm just trying to show to people what's really possible and to help them break that mental barrier implanted in their brain by the "official" physyics. 'Cause that's the only thing stopping them to ask questions, to do their own research and to start experimenting and go in this uncharted territory of the supressed technologies which could set us all free.

'Cause I know how difficult is to break that barrier, I was a firm believer in everything the "official" physics told me and taught me in school.

About the self-looping, it may be not be as simple as taking some energy from output and sending it to input. According to one of the very knowledgeable/experienced members of our team here the output energy is somehow different than the standard energy we use on input. And the difference between the nature of these energies have an undesired effect: the output energy instead of adding to the standard energy on input it annihilates/destroys it. So instead of having an increase of energy on input (by adding a part of the energy from output) we will have an decrease of energy on input. But that's just a possible issue which I'm sure we can find a workaround for it as there were many inventors showing self-running devices in the history.

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
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Fighter posted this 02 August 2023

Hello,

Related to the wires used, I was searching in the ZPM thread to find out data about the wires I used initially before changing them to the actual ones.

I found something which is very related to your observation about wires here in this post:

At that time my conclusion was it's about the wires gauge. But maybe it's also related to the wires lenghts as well.

Because at that time I was doing so many experiments I completely forgot about the reason why I changed the wires.

The post and the video on my YouTube channel are now 4 years old and seems now we found a new signifiance of the data published there and shown in the video.

At that time I considered the length of the wires is irrelevant, I thought just the gauge is significant.

Regards,

Fighter

"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
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AlteredUnity posted this 02 August 2023 - Last Edited 02 August 2023

Luckily you still get the effects with longer wires, and those I believe are fine stranded wires on those alligator clips, so may be combination of length and/or wire type. Also the effects shown in the video are interesting on the output as well, just adding wires in parallel so less resistance gives better output and reduces the input. I was going to ask if the wires were hot when you touched them, but just read the thread when you posted about it, thats even more interesting.

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Fighter posted this 02 August 2023

Quoting:AlteredUnity

I was going to ask if the wires were hot when you touched them, but just read the thread when you posted about it, thats even more interesting.

I don't remember too many details about the experiment but it's a good thing I documented the results at that time. So the answer is yes:

Something I also noticed when suing 2 x 12V/35W light-bulbs on output, when using those connectors having crocodile-style terminals and small AWG (diameter), the connectors on output are becoming so hot until the plastic which isolates their wires is going to the point of starting to melt even if they don't have direct thermic contact with the halogen lights; in the same time the same type of connectors on input are cold, not even warmer.

Here could be two possible explanations:

let's just suppose there is the same amperage on input and output, the output wires are being hot because of the very high frequency AC while the wires on input are cold because there is DC;

or the amperage on the output is much higher than the amperage on the input (as source's readings and the luminosity of the light-bulbs seems to indicate) meaning high COP.

Quoting:AlteredUnity

those I believe are fine stranded wires on those alligator clips, so may be combination of length and/or wire type.

I checked the electronics store where I bought them, they still have that kind of wires here.

Yes, they are 48 cm long (including the clips) stranded wires and what's more interesting is they support maximum 1A current. So what the experimental results were showing: input was under 1A (wires on input were cold) while output was over 1A (output wires became hot) which is obvious also from the luminosity of the 2 x 12V/35W halogen lamps on output.

That gives us also an idea about ZPM's overunity characteristics without using any measurement instruments.

Now looking back and having the new information you discovered about the wires I realize it was also a matter/percentage of luck: with longer/different wires I would have missed the input decreasing effect while I was trying different configurations during the development of ZPM...

Thanks,

Fighter