Beyond Unity - BTG research

Vidura posted this 03 August 2022 - Last Edited 25 October 2022

Hello Friends, I will import this thread; from the backup forum to the public category ,it is dedicated to the BTG devices like the ones shown by Ruslan and Akula. The Goal is to gain knowledge about the involved principals, and hopefully to achieve a working, self-feeding machine. Regarding the tier2 category , I want you to know that I was really tented to post for general public, and certainly the thread will be moved in the replications category when the time is right. But I also know that various persons got in serious troubles , and likely a young man lost his live, because this is the kind of devices produced in series would sensibly cut in the profits of the big energy companies.

We will in a first step go in diakoptik manner thru the different parts of the device and make different kinds of experiments and tests to get basic understanding of how this devices are working, and the interaction of the different parts. Also we will collect information from various sources from the original Builders. I would encourage those of you , who are interested in following or participating in this project, to read the thread about longitudinal waves , as this describes one of the basic physical principals involved in this device.

The First Part of the device we will cover is the push-pull converter. It's function is pumping charges, an analogy would be the electron-gun in the CRT, it is the source of charges. There is no magic in this part, it is just common EM technology, there are different topologies which could be used, half or full bridge would be suitable. For low frequency devices like the Kapagen also an of the shelf silicone steel transformer could be used. It is important that the output is AC. In the research we will stick to the push-pull topology for the ease of switching the two low side IGBT's. Here some images from testing this stage:

As I have time ,Ill continue to upload content and updates or corrections.

Vidura

btg

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Aliengrey posted this 18 December 2022 - Last Edited 18 December 2022

Quoting:Vidura

Hi Vidura; re the lower idea I have built that layout as per shown but unfortunatly it does not apear to cancel out all the inductance in fact far from it ! do you think it would be a better idea to biffilar wind it along the tube as then the waves would possably be in phase at the correct reso nance frequency, what do you think ?

Sil

It is likely, that this is not the only possible layout of the main resonator, hopefully the next set of experiments will shed more light on this. By the way, just a moment ago a file which contained all the images from the BTG research has suddenly disappeared from the computer, it seems that somebody hacked in, if it'snot a technical issue.

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Vidura posted this 18 December 2022

Quoting:Munny

Question I had with this device where I never got what I would qualify as a satisfactory answer was the 1-to-100 frequency modulation. Why does the high voltage have to be exactly 100 times higher frequency than the high current from the push-pull?

I understand hetrodyning but I (so far) cannot see any relationship and the 100 factor seems arbitrary to me.

Does anyone really know? Did Akula explain this someplace and I didn't pick up on it?

If we flip frequency into bandwidth does this 100 factor now make more sense relative to the wire lengths involved?

Does it have something to do with velocity factor of the insulated wires?

Sure wish somebody could give me a definitive answer because I would think the answer embeds the foundation of how this device really operates, which to me still seems like some kind of magical mixing of high voltage/low current with high current/low voltage to end up with moderate voltage/moderate current that is usable.

Sorry for the delay, I have a lot of work these days. In my earlier tests I have used different relationships to hit possible harmonics or overtones. In my actual understanding these are all interpretations from people whose had a certain hypothesis of the system, but I think it is much simpler. If we consider that both resonators, the HF and the main resonator have their own inherent resonant frequency, and anyone who has worked with tesla resonators will know that it is very sensible to all kind of external influences, also the mainresonator will have a changing resonant frequency, depending on the load of the system, temperature and similar parameters. Therefore for the instance I am convinced, that it is good enough to keep each of the resonators in tune for itself, and sustain the required phasing for the transfer of the scalar pulses. To find the answer about the principle of operation is certainly the goal of this research.

Quoting Aliengray:

Hi Vidura; re the lower idea I have built that layout as per shown but unfortunatly it does not apear to cancel out all the inductance in fact far from it ! do you think it would be a better idea to biffilar wind it along the tube as then the waves would possably be in phase at the correct reso nance frequency, what do you think ?

The grenade coil is not supposed to cancel the magnetic vector completely, it is an asymmetric inductor, which have sections of different inductance, in sign and gradient, only the middle section should have cancelled magnetic vectors, and this should be the best place for the reception of the scalar pulses or waves. As stated before I had the strongest interaction with the coil which was half bifilar cancelling and the other half normally wound.

Vidura

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bigmotherwhale posted this 18 December 2022

I would definately try that Sil, I have seen confilicting information on the first two windings part of the coil, Part of it needs to be non inductive, unless the small area marked MVC on the diag is where the action happens.

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Vidura posted this 22 December 2022 - Last Edited 22 December 2022

Hi all.
Update: In order to make a series of tests to learn about the interaction of the two resonators, I have built this board. It allows an easy exchange of components and coils, while maintaining an ordinated layout.

As stated before, I am very busy this time of the year. Additionally I had a lot of offline time lately, due to a server problem. But finally, I could do some tests.

Here you can see the parts inside the main rwesonator. Still I did not get the expected results, when the HF pulses are activated ,the amplitude of the mainresonator decreases instead of increasing. regardless of the timing of the signal. So I guess there is some issue with the feedback, but with patience and persistence it will be solved. As time allows I will continue and troubleshooting why the increase of the oscillations is not present.

Vidura

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bigmotherwhale posted this 22 December 2022

do you have a scope shot of the pulses and the reaction in the coil?

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Vidura posted this 22 December 2022 - Last Edited 22 December 2022

Replying To: bigmotherwhale

No, I didn’t take scope shots yet, just played around with various configs. Some more details: First I tried to put the load in series LCR in the main resonator, but the push pull could not bring up the oscillations as the dampening of the load resistor is way too high. It might be possible by increasing the secondary voltage of the toroid, at the cost of pumping much more power into the circuit. Then I added another winding for the power removal:

it is wound over the inductive part of the resonator, with some extra layers above the ferrite rings with a step-up ratio of 1:2.5
As result of the decoupling the push pull could oscillate, although dampened when loaded. Also I swapped the windings, connecting the new coil to the push pull and capacitor, but all tests with the same result, that is the amplitude was decreasing when the HF pulses turned on.
In the next video I will document this and hopefully something more...

Vidura

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bigmotherwhale posted this 23 December 2022

Have you used a fluorescent light to check for standing waves in the main coil?

have you tuned for unidirectional pulses in the katcher telsa?

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Vidura posted this 23 December 2022 - Last Edited 23 December 2022

Replying To: bigmotherwhale

The potential was not enough to lite up a neon in the main resonator. A standing wave is supposed to be present, as the PLL indicates phase lock, and it is LC resonance. But I think it is something with the transfer, as in former experiments I could lite a halogen lamp with the Kacher alone. In the coming experiments we will figure it out. Regards.

Vidura

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Aliengrey posted this 23 December 2022 - Last Edited 23 December 2022

Dont you need the standing waves to be generated in what you call the Tesla coll ?

The Lithuwainian device used a caducious coil Some Lithuwainian guy on you tube talks about

this on youtube (converting a Tesla coil to do this ) I tried it but some thing is missing.

Sil

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Vidura posted this 23 December 2022

Replying To: Aliengrey

Yes we need the standing wave in the TC, as E-field generator, it was there in the last tests, but not properly received or converted in the main or output coils.

Vidura

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